San Bernardino Shooting - False Flag - Craft International Mercenaries - Muslim Patsies - Remote Control SUV

San Bernardino Shooting - False Flag - Craft International Mercenaries - Muslim Patsies - Remote Control SUV - Gun Control Agenda

Political Letters - December 19, 2015

2015.12.19.

I live near to San Bernardino, California where a mass casualty shooting allegedly took place recently. Here is my assessment of the event, to the best of my ability.

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'Craft Intl mercenaries carried out San Bernardino shooting'
Tue Dec 8, 2015 11:37AM
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Members of the Craft International, a tactical training company for the US military (file photo)
Mercenaries from the Craft International, a tactical training company for the US military, carried out last week’s false flag operation in San Bernardino, California, according to Steven D Kelley, a former NSA/CIA contractor.

On Wednesday, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 29, stormed a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, killing at least 14 people and injuring 21 in the deadliest mass shooting in the US in three years. Hours later, the couple reportedly died in a fire exchange with police.

Malik had pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group, three US officials familiar with the investigation claimed on Friday. On Saturday, the Takfiri group also claimed the couple as its followers.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) said on Monday the couple had been radicalized "for some time."

Kelley told Press TV on Tuesday that the shooting “is just one in a long string of false flag events that I am afraid to say are not over.”

“We’ll probably be seeing several more before the end of the year, because of the events that are going on in the world, specifically with the NATO being implicated in the buying of oil from Daesh and other events,” he stated.

“So when these things happen they need to have a rapid response which requires a false flag attack. This was very obvious that this was going to happen,” the analyst added.

“The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,” he noted.

President Barack Obama on Sunday called the California shooting an "act of terrorism” and said the couple who launched the attack "had gone down the dark path of radicalization."

"They had stockpiled assault weapons, ammunition and pipe bombs. So this was an act of terrorism," he claimed.

Kelley said “the people that are being implicated – the couple -- first of all if they were planning something, if they were radicalized as this is being said, and clearly the NSA, the FBI will be right on the top of these people all the time, but rather than stopping them from doing something, they were nurtured to be used for this exact purpose.”

“I do not suspect that these people have anything to do with the actual shooting. I suspect that these were patsies, no different than Timothy McVeigh or any of these other people who have historically been used to implement these terrorist acts,” the commentator said.

“If you look at the people that were wounded you can see clearly that bullet wounds are not real. The .223 caliber weapon or bullets fired from AR15 – an extremely powerful weapon -- would blow someone’s arm off, it is not going to make a small hole,” said Kelley, who is also a weapons expert.

“So clearly this is a very very dirty false flag. Obviously, the United States is getting very very desperate; the government here is very desperate, they need to do something immediately to disarm the United States prior to a revolution, because the people here are waking up very fast, and they are ready to shut down this evil empire. And this needs to happen very soon,” the analyst concluded.

In his televised address from the Oval Office, Obama called for tougher gun controls, starting with a ban on gun purchases for anyone on a US government no-fly list. "To begin with, Congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun.”

"What could possibly be the argument for allowing a terrorist suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon? This is a matter of national security," he stated.

Obama has said the “biggest frustration” of his time in the office has been the inability to reduce unparalleled levels of gun violence in the country.

Press TV Comments

Tyrantosaurus Death11.12 09:36
Chris Kyle of American Sniper infamy was one of creators of Craft Int'l. After he was murdered, Craft carried out Boston Bombing & pinned it on Tsarnaev brothers.

Now they are implicated in San Bernadino false flag op.
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Pamela Pace
Pamela Pace11.12 09:34
This is the first time a mass shooting has occurred where all the shooters got away, even though entire area eas surrounded by armed officers. How convenient they were later captured and were terrorist. Same as with twin towers. How can we not ask ourselves, why all airport towers were incommunicado & why was our president unreachable for over 8 hours? Also, why attack Iraq, when it was Saudi's flying planes & trained in our flight schools? People need to start educating themselves, instead of blindly following the millionaire owned media. Too much false propaganda, and blind sheep.
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Barry McPickle
Barry McPickle11.12 06:53
THE INFORMED AMERICANS WHICH ARE FEW, ALREADY KNEW AND KNOW WHATS COMING. WE WILL SEE MORE FALSE FLAGS AND THE ATTEMPT TO BAN ALL WEAPONS. ITS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS COUNTRY CANT BE INVADED WHILE THE AMERICAN POPULACE IS STILL ARMED.
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Christina Craven Vaught
Christina Craven Vaught> Barry McPickle11.12 07:38
Invaded by whom?
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Todd Miner
Todd Miner> Christina Craven Vaught11.12 19:18
Invaded by 'whoever our Government' chooses...It could be the Army, Obama's JV Team or the United Nations for that matter!
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jimmy matho
jimmy matho> Christina Craven Vaught11.12 21:55
a foreign police force...a UN armed presence,....you think the american populous is going to sit idly by during the planned giant depression the globalists have in store for america??
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Brandon
Brandon> Barry McPickle11.12 12:47
Bad understanding - take a quick look at *all* the other armed, stand against the US, groups in the US over the past 40 years .... and what happened to them. You really think citizens with rifles are going to stop a modern armed force?
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Jgm Contracts
Jgm Contracts> Brandon11.12 16:45
To Simplistic - Think DDR When the People Rose Up the Stassi refused to fire on their brothers and joined them. So obviously something similat is required.
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ashley bateson
ashley bateson11.12 00:58
First its the men with tan boots shooting people then it claims they were not actually shot....cant even get their conspiricay theory strait before spewing up in an article, this is pretty poor journalism.
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Barry McPickle
Barry McPickle> ashley bateson11.12 06:54
IT IS SCARY TO SEE OUR GOVERNMENT PERFORMING MAJOR ACTS OF TERRORISM AND MAKING HUGE MISTAKES IN THE PROCESS. WE CANT DO ANYTHING ANYWAY, BUT STILL BOTHERSOME NONE THE LESS.
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Christina Craven Vaught
Christina Craven Vaught> Barry McPickle11.12 07:39
I doubt this is just our government, but a faction within that wants war with Iran.
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Brandon
Brandon> Christina Craven Vaught11.12 12:48
Neocon agenda.
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Reese ErchGuy
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Anonymously anonymous
Anonymously anonymous10.12 20:11
I've worked in a Trauma clinic in Afghanistan and have seen MULTIPLE 5.56 wounds and none of them blew their arms off. Hell even the 7.62 didn't "blow an arm off"
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Bryce Jensen
Bryce Jensen10.12 09:09
.223 blowing someone's arm off... You obviously haven't actually seen someone get shot with a 5.56/.223
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Anthony Weisenberger
Anthony Weisenberger> Bryce Jensen10.12 19:35
I was thinking the same thing. This guy is an idiot. Any validity to his claims was shattered with that statement.
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Reese ErchGuy
Reese ErchGuy> Anthony Weisenberger12.12 05:49
Unfortunately it's not that simple to evaluate the truth of a collection of statements.
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Fed up
Fed up10.12 01:16
Idiots

Yes that is a civilian version of a 5.56mm round. NATO round.
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LAYNALAND
LAYNALAND10.12 00:45
I KNEW THIS DAYS AGO...AND NOW IT COMES OUT!!!...I'M FLABBERGASTED!...ALEX NEEDS TO HAVE THIS MAN ON HIS PROGRAM, BIG TIME!...MAKE IT HAPPEN, FOLKS!...L.
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Graziano Fum
Graziano Fum09.12 23:48

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Graziano Fum
Graziano Fum09.12 23:48

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James Smith
James Smith09.12 23:12
I was told when the globalists make their move they're not going to worry about all the guns in America. They are just going to release a virus , causing a pandemic. Its hard for a sick and dying population to put up any kind of resistance no matter how many they have.
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Christina Craven Vaught
Christina Craven Vaught> James Smith11.12 07:40
If they kill everyone, who will be left to be their slaves?
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Marcia Modenese Coelho Bartlett
Marcia Modenese Coelho Bartlett09.12 22:40
My thoughts from day one! That couple were just patsies in the FBI hands!!
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Keltlady
Keltlady09.12 19:58
Why ??? Because the oligarchy bankster gangsters are getting desperate also because people are finding out what a bunch of thieves the Fed and central banks are....Get rid of the Fed !!!!
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Graziano Fum
Graziano Fum> Keltlady09.12 23:47
Bingo was his name..!
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Graziano Fum
Graziano Fum> Keltlady09.12 23:48

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Darryn Loveridge
Darryn Loveridge09.12 15:08
Correct me if I'm wrong...a .223 is a 5.56mm calibre round?
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Expert
Expert> Darryn Loveridge09.12 16:23
Correct.
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Brandon Kawika Lau
Brandon Kawika Lau> Expert09.12 21:25
No. Incorrect, diameter of bullet is the same, bit the shoulder ramp angle is slightly different and the amount of powder grains is higher. This increases the pressure making the round exit the barrel faster with more energy. A rifle rated for 5.56 and shoot .223 and 5.56 all day long. No the other way around. Just an aside.
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bvnnbv
bvnnbv> Brandon Kawika Lau10.12 04:10
It's still the same caliber.
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Tomas Ljubic
Tomas Ljubic> Brandon Kawika Lau11.12 06:35
exactly backwards.
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Tomas Ljubic
Tomas Ljubic> Brandon Kawika Lau11.12 06:37
exactly the other way round.
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Dwayne Alexander
Dwayne Alexander> Darryn Loveridge09.12 16:41
No, two different calibers. A rifle that is made to fire the 5.56 can also fire a 223 round but a rifle that fires 223 can't fire or should I say for you own safety and others shouldn't chamber a 5.56 round.
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Christopher J Hoffman
Christopher J Hoffman> Dwayne Alexander09.12 21:26
Modern .223 rifles are almost universally capable of handling 5.56 pressures. Of course, always check with the manufacturer if any doubt.
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Bryan R. Neeley
Bryan R. Neeley> Darryn Loveridge09.12 17:15
Actually they are similar but different cartridges with subtle differences in case measurements.
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Darryn Loveridge
Darryn Loveridge> Bryan R. Neeley09.12 18:01
Thanks Dwayne and Bryan. I just remember from when I was trained in the military between 1986 and 1990, as an infantryman, we transitioned from the then standard NATO round of 7.62 millimeter to 5.56 millimeter. It was explained that a smaller calibre bullet would not kill Charlie outright, but would disable 3 soldiers by maiming one. In comparison to the old 7.62 millimeter round which would kill Charlie with a strike to the arm, simply through shock and blood loss.

The other reason I understand for the change in standard rounds was because Warsaw Pact forces (ie Russians and Communist bloc countries) used weapons with a 7.63 calibre round. In such, if they captured enemy rounds, 7.62, they could use them but NATO forces could not use the 7.63 mm round.
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JerryLee
JerryLee> Darryn Loveridge10.12 05:38
Warsaw Pact used 7.62 calibre only...
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jgobwen
jgobwen> Darryn Loveridge10.12 11:09
1986 to 1990 was after my time. I was Air Force Security Police from 1974 to 1984 and we used the M-16 which was 5.56mm. During that time the only infantry style weapon to use the 7.62mm was the M-60. I believe the last rifle that had the 7.62mm was the M-14 though they had pretty much quit using them as a regular weapon.
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Wayne Conner
Wayne Conner> Darryn Loveridge10.12 17:02
The M16A1 or A2 is the rifle you used. It was never chambered in .762. You must be confused about the different heavy weapons variations. The M60 was chambered in .762, then replaced with the M240B/G also chambered in .762 and weighing in at 16lb's heavier (if my memory is correct). The addition of the belt fed Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) was however chambered in 5.56.
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Darryn Loveridge
Darryn Loveridge> Wayne Conner10.12 17:15
Wayne Connor. I was in the New Zealand military. We transitioned from the SLR which was a 7.62mm to the M16A1 which is a 5.56mm round between the years 1986 and 1990. For the gunners we also transitioned from the GPMG which was a 7.62mm calibre to the Minimi which was a 5.56mm
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John McCarthy
John McCarthy> Darryn Loveridge09.12 23:10
A .223 caliber round is a 5.56 mm round. can you look at the entrance wound of both and tell the difference? Hint: A .223 round is 3000ths larger than a standard .22 (IN DIAMETER)
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Alan Stinchfield
Alan Stinchfield09.12 13:03
Such a joke
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BMm
BMm09.12 12:33
BM
We are all being led to slaughter, like sheep to the abbatoir, by the group that controls our money, our media and our governments. One of the methods used is to create endless conflict: divide and rule. Whether Christian,, Muslim, black or white we all. have a common enemy who wages war by stealth against us all. The greatest irony is that this small group is set to destroy humanity by using our own stupidity, cowardice and greed as its chief weapons against us. They could do nothing if we all had the common sense to recognise what is happening to our world - and the moral strength to reject the bribes and threats they use with such skill and success.
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marlene
marlene09.12 10:53
The global corporate oligarchs are getting impatient with those of us who fully intend to KEEP OUR GUNS, stock up on ammo, and fight back! obama's working overtime in committing as much treason as it takes to fulfill his promise to his puppetmasters.
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Pamela Pace
Pamela Pace> marlene11.12 10:37
I can't believe ur ignorant enough to blame Obama! When Bush took over we had more then a billion deficit after two terms with Cheney running the show we were lead into a war on lies & deceit. By the time Cheney, Bush, Rove, & Ashcroft were done, we were trillions in debt. They were the axis of evil they so fondly called the rest of the world. They're attempts to keep the American people frightened while they amassed millions in personal wealth is an atrocity! It's hard for me to believe there are still people choosing to believe the false propaganda, instead of doing some research ond fact finding on they're own!
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James Anderson
James Anderson09.12 10:13
.556 is a glorified .22 GTFOH
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"Nicolae Ciobanu" <nc1950@gmail.com>,
"Nicolae Ciobanu" <nc1950@gmail.com>,> James Anderson09.12 11:30
22 long rifle stats
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
40 gr (3 g) Solid[2] 1,200 ft/s (370 m/s) 104 ft·lbf (141 J)
38 gr (2 g) Copper-plated HP[2] 1,260 ft/s (380 m/s) 134 ft·lbf (182 J)
31 gr (2 g) Copper-plated HP[2] 1,430 ft/s (440 m/s) 141 ft·lbf (191 J)
30 gr (2 g) Copper-plated RN[3] 1,750 ft/s (530 m/s) 204 ft·lbf (277 J)
32 gr (2 g) Copper-plated HP[3] 1,640 ft/s (500 m/s) 191 ft·lbf (259 J)
Source(s): [2][3]
AR-15 stats
and accuracy
Rifle Caliber Cartridge Cartridge Bullet weight Velocity Energy Range Acuracy

M16 5.56×45mm M193 84 gr (11.9 g) [98] 55 gr (3.6 g)[99] 3,250 fps (990 m/s)
[99] 1,302 ft/lbs
(1,764 j)
For those that took physics and understand E=1/2*m*v*v you can see from dat that the AR-15/M-16 has about 3X the muzzle velocity and about 13X the energy that is the ratio of 1,746J/141J.
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Jean-Louis Blackburn
Jean-Louis Blackburn> "Nicolae Ciobanu" <nc1950@gmail.com>,09.12 17:31
M-16 = 5.56 mm = 0.2189 in < 0.22
AR-15 = 0.223 > 0.22
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Justin Henkel
Justin Henkel09.12 10:02
Anyone who thinks an ar15 is a powerful weapons that blows off limbs is more then welcome to come teach me how to shoot mine better....
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CaptRodgers
CaptRodgers> Justin Henkel12.12 10:21
THANK YOU! Lol
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Free
Free09.12 09:09
Yeah , we live in a country of greedy liars. That want all our rights taken.
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AP
AP09.12 08:05
Makes perfect sense that a super secret assassination squad would wear a "standard uniform" so conspiritards can spot them
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Conspiritard
Conspiritard> AP09.12 21:03
Indeed.. it's called hiding i plain sight
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QuisnosRepublic
QuisnosRepublic> AP10.12 00:42
LOL there are 5.56 rounds which are very destructive. Nothing like my 338 lapua which can cut a man in half at 1500 yards using the 300 scenar, nor the 416 400 grain which if going into a group more than 1 will die.
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Syed Haider Rizvi
Syed Haider Rizvi09.12 07:55
350 million guns....dammmm
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Baybars
Baybars> Syed Haider Rizvi09.12 10:06
That's only the ones you are told about
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Christina Craven Vaught
Christina Craven Vaught> Syed Haider Rizvi11.12 07:43
Not easily taken, I would think. This theory that someone is coming for anyone's guns - besides military-style assault weapons - is sheer lunacy. When the shooting starts, I'll be in my basement. Let me know when it's all over. THIS American just cares about love, life, happiness, and good health.
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Bradley Benton
Bradley Benton09.12 07:27
What kind of .223 blows arms off? I think mines broken.
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russ
russ> Bradley Benton09.12 07:54
You have to shoot the "animal" in the torso to blow arms off. Don't you know anything? I heard a leg shot will sometimes blow off an arm tho I've never seen it happen.
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Baybars
Baybars> Bradley Benton09.12 09:52
Please share your repair procedure with the rest of us!
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Gina Cartwright
Gina Cartwright09.12 07:12
Obama called for our to forfeit our right to bear arms right after the Paris attacks on November 14th -- as though American gun owners were somehow responsible for them as well, Any time someone is shot anywhere in the world, it's time for us to be blamed and to have our guns confiscated. SMDH
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Tariq A
Tariq A> Gina Cartwright09.12 09:24
Any time someone is shot anywhere in the world, Americans bear the brunt and we Muslims get caught and shot.
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BGA
BGA09.12 05:45
I just don't understand how a handful of evil can destroy billions of human beings.
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warrior79
warrior79> BGA09.12 07:06
simple answer: money.
2nd level answer: its not a handful and they are getting help from the outside - from entities belonging to another dimension. some call them demons, others call them aliens. lets agree that there is indeed more to this world than what we see and the elite knows this and use it. no matter how you twist and turn it, its all about god, devil, mankind and free will. try to view the world from above. see what is going on. watch and observe. read the bible. and you will realize the truth.
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AP
AP> warrior7909.12 07:56
Despite old books and your imagination, there is no "big other" that's influencing or controlling anything. People are are capable of both good or evil. Just depends on their choices and circumstances.
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warrior79
warrior79> AP09.12 08:39
please do not state it as if its a fact. you do not know.
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Zmax25
Zmax25> warrior7909.12 08:46
The most reasonable answer ever seen
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warrior79
warrior79> warrior7909.12 08:50
in other words: truth comes from knowledge, not opinion.
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Freddi Fish
Freddi Fish> warrior7909.12 09:10
No, truth comes from facts. Not wisdom, knowledge, faith, the hope that it's true or not being able to accept the real truth.
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Freddi Fish
Freddi Fish> warrior7909.12 09:11
Right back at ya.
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AP
AP> warrior7909.12 11:06
The fact that people do good or do evil is evidence that people are capable of either. In addition to your bible, read the Torah and the Quran and study every other ancient text you can. They're all written for certain groups under different circumstances. But they all say the same thing. So yes, with 30+ years of study I can "state as if its facts"
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Chipper Garrison
Chipper Garrison> AP09.12 17:22
If you think humans are the highest power and that we are alone on this rock, you are simply a narcissist.
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Phone2000
Phone2000> AP09.12 19:14
Nah....new world order is in bible in full detail and clearly states the devil is behind it
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fred neufeld
fred neufeld> Phone200010.12 01:10
Did youknow the word "Lucifer" appears in the KJV Bible exactly once in Isaiah 14:12...How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
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Mike
Mike> Freddi Fish10.12 08:12
If it is not facts it is not knowledge, only a perceived knowledge. True knowledge must by necessity have a basis. This is a common mistake...
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Ryn Tollmann
Ryn Tollmann> Mike10.12 11:45
Truth is subjective, facts are but pieces of evidence for a conclusion. Even a pure scientist will admit they don't try to 'prove' anything (they simply discover as many facts as needed to support a pre-conclusion. Philostrom look it up. )
The scientific method is restrictive and flawed, but it does produce facts that can be verified by material means\senses..however non-material subjects are not within its scope of ability.
The universe is data, and science extracts data from nature, but only certain data. It is limited in its scope of data collection.
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Michelle Barajas
Michelle Barajas> Ryn Tollmann10.12 18:34
Some truths are subjective. Some are objective. 2+2=4 and always will as long as we speak of it in base 10.
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Ryn Tollmann
Ryn Tollmann> Michelle Barajas11.12 09:09
That is correct. Likewise that is a numerical truth predefined by set values. Numbers existed in the universe long before we developed numerals to represent them. Example III and 3 represent three...but three existed long before we assign numerals to them. It's often confusing since we interchange the word number and numerals in common conversation..but numerals are subjective while numbers are absolute. An alien species can easily adapt its numeral system to ours with only a few references...singular,double,triple,nothing and our numeral system and theirs can be synced.
I often use numbers as a defacto example of an intelligent creator argument, after all we derive our numeral system from nature, therefore it already existed long before man's subjective mind concieved it (in the form of numbers)
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Al Qaim
Al Qaim> BGA09.12 10:55
Now need to look very far into the history of so called "Western Civilization" for answers. Genocide against the Native Americans, the US complicity in the now 70 years of Zionist occupation of Palestine and genocide of Palestinians, the Cheney - Bush family criminal cartel ...
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QuisnosRepublic
QuisnosRepublic> Al Qaim10.12 00:49
it all originates from England they never lost their grip on the States it was only hidden that hold' Took 240 years to finally take us over but like all things when the masses get angry they can get even and that transposes all the tyrants in all the history of man.
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Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed09.12 05:42
Of course! Every so called terrorist attack or attempt of one in the USA and Canada has been planned, setup and executed by our respective governments. Well actually the corporate banking/food/pharma cartel that controls our govs.
Great article, thank you.
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Dustin Lara
Dustin Lara> Nathan Reed09.12 06:20
You said that better than I could have and your right. Can we be friends
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Zmax25
Zmax25> Nathan Reed09.12 08:47
I agree
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Ron Brown
Ron Brown> Nathan Reed09.12 17:16
I find it odd that at the top of the corporate banking/food/pharma cartel sits Z Jewish cabal .
Little buggers are every where.
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QuisnosRepublic
QuisnosRepublic> Nathan Reed10.12 00:53
your close You have an hierarchy of the Rothschilds cabal mainly controlled by the Vatican the banks work under the big 6 morgon Stanley and Goldman Sachs being the Largest. Soros, Kissinger, and several others are the foot soldiers.
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BGA
BGA09.12 05:42
Why can't our military take down this evil empire? I mean are they just gonna watch until the psychopaths take the entire country down? Surely they know what's happening. Plus they have the constitutional authority to do for the sake of the citizens and nation. They can start with the Federal Reserve and Washington.
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Muslim Man
Muslim Man09.12 04:24
THANK YOU Steven D Kelley for what you said, that Someone Else carried the attack and blamed it on Muslims, as usual, You are an Honest Man and even better than some Muslim's Media, which quickly take the side and promoted the Zionists Version.
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Victoria Ann Monk
Victoria Ann Monk09.12 03:35
We live in a bad period where our military is getting squashed!! Wondering from the article I read whether these three US officiales are even name worthy..
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Mr Peabody
Mr Peabody09.12 03:29
Why is it when ever one of those "events" go down, there is usually some mass "security" drill taking place nearby?
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Freddi Fish
Freddi Fish> Mr Peabody09.12 09:19
That way emergency response happens the same way as it does on tv and in the movies... fast and effective. It's the only way it will look real to people that have been dumbed down by mass media and the education system.
It's why people that have personal knowledge of how these events look when they are real have so many issues with official stories.
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Voice of theVoiceless
Voice of theVoiceless09.12 02:31
THIS IS JUST THE TRUTH, SETUP OF THE HIGHEST ORDERS. THEY LATER ATTACHED MUSLIMS TO IT AND LABELED THEM TERRORISTS. AMERICANS AND WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND STAND TO SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH
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Shane Ferris
Shane Ferris09.12 00:58
There's unparalleled gun violence because you're the one helping orchestrate it Obummer, You scumbag.
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Apple Shandy
Apple Shandy08.12 23:40
I recall in the UK initial reports were three shooters. What the hell is wrong with us govt? Do they really hate freedom so much h?
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Be the Shark
Be the Shark> Apple Shandy09.12 02:37
Survivors, who were shot, said there were 2 shooters. A 3rd person running down a nearby road had no connection to the shooting.
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Tom Lowe
Tom Lowe> Be the Shark09.12 14:44
No one was shot expect maybe the patsies, but they may be actors as well.
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Laurak
Laurak> Apple Shandy09.12 02:41
It's not the US government. It's the globalists that are behind it.
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Scott Reed
Scott Reed> Laurak09.12 03:42
The US government IS the globalists!
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Baybars
Baybars> Apple Shandy09.12 09:58
Local television reported three shooters at the time but the story kept changing. Some surviving witnesses claim three big guys with big guns but now that story is changing too. This event unfolded in much the same way the Oklahoma City bombing did, with the media reports changing dramatically over the course of a week.
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Narma Raf
Narma Raf08.12 23:21
If it's a false flag then it's sad for American, as their gov need to killed more of their own citizen to create hatred and killed more in other countries.
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Pat Engness
Pat Engness> Narma Raf09.12 04:27
I wouldn't put anything past a government that kills its own Presidents.The original pics of JFK showed big blast hole in the Back of head, entry wound, smaller, in front. Dozens of people were killed (Lee Harvey Oswald being the first and most obvious) or had convenient "accidents" after the assassination, just in case you wonder how they can get away with cover ups. I know the son of someone who was considered a threat later on and her airplane conveniently crashed, taking all the other innocent 100 or so people with her.
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Rob Mazurek
Rob Mazurek08.12 22:33
We have known this now for a very long time....and its not just craft .its an assortment of private security/mercenary organizations together with hired crisis actors and Govt depts conspiring to organize it all into a huge theatrical production for the mainstream media to sell to the public in order for Obama to try to justify his gun control rants and agenda to try to take away or restrict Americans gun rights . He knows legally it cant be done and is unconstitutional yet he tries anyway -like a true sore loser and dictator-wanna-be . The Rothschilds banking elite are trying to take over numerous countries at the moment like Syria, Ukraine, with their next fixed targets being Iran,Russia and China during their never ending invasion and conquest tour utilizing the U.S. Military and NATO forces as their personal chess pawns to formulate their NWO agenda . But they have always been unsucessful so far in disarming Americans of their firearms and in order to totally enslave Americans they know they must first disarm them ....as America is the only country in the world right now which poses their NWO agenda with the greatest armed resistance of civilians to date . They know this and they fear this . which is why they get their puppets like Obama to try to come after your guns via false-flag events that they themselves stage !
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Junited states
Junited states> Rob Mazurek08.12 23:30
An Iraqi shoe has more courage , brains and integrity than the entire american populace. Like all loudmouths americans are just that, their police is killing children on a weekly basis yet they still beleive they are the best democracy in the world. Capitalism is just the fascist form of greed. Kennedy 911.....Nope they are hopeless drones addicted to fast food and crappy rat race lives. The world owes them 2 nukes.
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Be the Shark
Be the Shark> Junited states09.12 02:40
We get it....you hate everyone in America....old ladies and babies, Christians and muslims.... 1 question....How long have you been off your medication?
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Shaheed Mahomed
Shaheed Mahomed> Junited states09.12 04:44
no one deserves nukes..........
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Chitowngirl
Chitowngirl08.12 21:17
The MSM has an agenda to brainwash the masses. There is too many mistakes they made on this one. Funny is they keep using the same people in these false flags. People are starting to catch on but i'm afraid it is too late. People have fallen for the story the MSM is putting out about Muslims. Most Muslims are good people. There is bad in every group. There is so much hate, they are trying to push this agenda and start a civil war in this country. Sad that people fall for anything.
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Dustin Hills
Dustin Hills08.12 21:10
two things: why would these guys wear a "uniform" to perform these attacks? That would be absolutely stupid and obvious. Also, a .223 fired from an AR-15 would not "blow someone's arm off". I've seen ballistic testing of these rounds fired from an AR-15, just not true.
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Kyle Johnson
Kyle Johnson> Dustin Hills09.12 06:10
All credibility is lost with his statement about .223 ballistics. The projectile on a .223 is very small compared to most high powered rifles yet it carried more velocity then much bigger projectiles. At close rage that .223 would have gone straight through leaving a small hole in front and a bigger hole in the back due to the impact wave of the round.
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Shane Boyd
Shane Boyd> Dustin Hills09.12 07:54
Well I don't have to see ballistic testing because I have seen what happens to a arm shot with a .556 round and it wasn't blown off. So you are correct this is not true.
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Kaveh Ahangar
Kaveh Ahangar08.12 20:33
where were the security cameras again? Oh wait, they didn't exist..just like 9/11 and all other false flag ops....
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Be the Shark
Be the Shark> Kaveh Ahangar09.12 02:51
The REAL Stephen D. Kelly is the FBI's Assistant Director, Office of Congressional Affairs. He graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Vermont in 1985 and earned a law degree from Boston College Law School in 1989.

Mr. Kelly worked as a federal prosecutor for 16 years and then worked for the US Senate, before going to the FBI.

The entire story is BOGUS.
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Yusuf
Yusuf> Be the Shark09.12 03:01
Your just another retarded yank!
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Be the Shark
Be the Shark> Yusuf09.12 03:19
You should know that there is a FREE mental health clinic in your neighborhood.....just saying......you may be crazy
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Baybars
Baybars> Be the Shark09.12 10:05
Are there not allowed to be more than one Steven D Kelly in a population of 350 million? Your comments on this site, your dismissal of entire stories for no reason, your calling commenters crazy and your support for U.S. actions make you very suspect on this site. Troll much?
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Bryan Warrick
Bryan Warrick08.12 20:15
Keep in mind san berdo had filed bankruptcy last year 31 mil budget spent a billion plus. Desperate cities do desperate things.
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Jeremy Gates
Jeremy Gates08.12 20:14
FALSE flags galore in the untied snakes of aiapc of liars , the capital of ... , demon-cracy and liars..